---
title: Podcast: Digitalized reference checks for greater success
description: "Heidi Lofthus interviewed David Näsström at Refapp in the iGaming NEXT podcast. They discuss
how phone calls are outdated, stressing and time costly in reference checks. They also discussed some ethical challenges and the taboo around “backdoor references”."
---

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# [Podcast: Digitalized reference checks for greater success](https://www.refapp.com/blog/podcast-digitalized-reference-checks-for-greater-success)

 Written by [Emelie Dahl](https://www.refapp.com/blog/author/emelie-dahl) | 6/22/22 3:14 PM

Heidi Lofthus interviewed David Näsström at Refapp in the iGaming NEXT podcast. They discuss  
how phone calls are outdated, stressing and time costly in reference checks. They also discussed some ethical challenges and the taboo around “backdoor references”.

Listen or watch to the podcast below:

 

 

[View full post](https://www.refapp.com/blog/podcast-digitalized-reference-checks-for-greater-success)

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